The way Oregon built themselves into a national brand is impressive

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[Dawg101]

Nike? sure. You need money to be good in college football. But what was Oregon compared to a lot of these other national brands in the 20th century? Nothing, they were garbage, trash, and irrelevant. Nike isn’t the only reason they developed into a national brand.

They hired a hall of fame coach in Mike Bellotti and built a great foundation out him. They flirted with national brand status until he retired and then they hired a revolutionary offensive mind in Chip Kelly and skyrocketed into one of the biggest national brands in the country.

They’ve run their program well, it isn’t only Nike. USC and us were recruiting at a way better rate before Cristobal arrived over the last 15 years and Oregon has had more success. Meanwhile we were a dumpster fire until Pete and recruited better than Oregon under pete and still couldn’t win a big game. They’re impressive.

They used that national brand to hire a good recruiter during their down years and are a national brand again. Nike built them, but that wasn’t the only thing that built them. They have run very well over the past couple decades.

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Both programs want to win. The difference is Oregon actually does what it takes to win. We don’t.

Every head coaching hire since and including Chip contains as much risk as all of UW’s. The Sark hire was lazy, but so was Helfrich and Christobol.

Christo started off by getting his ass kicked against Boise, and followed it up with Washington win that in hindsight was just a memorable game for their fans, as we blew past them for another conference ship right after.

They have seized the opportunities given to them in their super experienced 2019 team that took out Wisconsin and avoided tOSU who they would be overmatched by as well. This year they were given the champ game appearance and now only Iowa State stands in their way. Iowa State is not near as as good as that Barkley PSU team.

There’s a lot of gloss and perception with them that makes us looks lazy by comparison, but in the end we need our assistant coaching hires to work out, just as theirs have. The recruiting disparity is a bad sign, but we have a great walk on and talent eval program. So hopefully we bounce back in a big way next year because who knows if Christo is done dropping games to really bad team just because his guys aren’t motivated.

They wouldn’t be recruiting Like this without Cristobal so I don’t consider that a lazy hire

We’re talking about Oregon being a national brand but they need Christobol to recruit like he is?

Didn’t he just win a rose bowl with Helfrich and Taggert’s recruits?

Sitting back just bumping the assistant, maybe lazy wasn’t the right word, but it’s not like Oregon just cares so much more than UW that they went out and got a low risk, big name hire. They’ve never done that, UW actually did (even though Pete wanted to be here).

Hiring coaches is always a big risk as for even blue bloods, a top guy doesnt always fall in your lap.

Look at USC. Pete Carroll was their 4th or 5th choice. Belotti and others turned down that job.

No one wanted the UW job in 2008. 5 years later, we were lucky as a championship and HOF coach basically hired himself. (We can only fault him for burning out too soon).

However, Oregon doesn’t tolerate losing and failure like we do. Helfrich was canned after 4 years and 2 years after he was in the NC game. If that was us, we’d have given him another year.

Do you think Oregon would keep Boner and Gregory around for so long?

Nip8 is correct. Oregon just cares more and won’t tolerate things going off course the way we do.

I couldn’t agree more Oregon runs their program like they want to compete and win National Championships. Nike is also a very big part but not the only part. Most Doog fans also chop everything up to Nike & they are paying players. But Oregon overall takes winning seriously no KB nor Greggory would be on the staff. Also look at the basketball program their athletic department is about competing at the highest level. As long as UW has a fan base that accepts 30 ranked recruiting classes and say they
Are top 10, 8-5 is what’s going to be acceptable

I think it’s possible that Cristobal is just very fortunate. He is clearly a good recruiter, although whether he is a good scout of talent is still unclear – a lot of his recruits seem overrated. He could easily have lost that Rose Bowl, and of course, his path to this year’s Fiesta Bowl was improbable given the losses to the Beavers and otherwise winless Cal.

Helfrich’s recruiting was often knocked for the years leading up to his firing, and there was a bad class or two in there, but I think he could have rebounded if he wasn’t fired. It was his recruits that won the Rose Bowl, not Cristobal’s. So the question is whether he can do it with his own guys, or whether he is just chasing stars. If he starts landing actual blue-chip talent like Penei Sewell year after year, he is bound to keep winning. This year, getting JTT would make his class. Probably why he is going all out to land him.

The Huskies need to stay humble, keep scouting well among the 3-star ranks, and start landing more of their in-state talent. The way forward seems pretty clear. Hiring better recruiters like Cristobal has done and like USC did is probably how to get it done. Better recruiters doesn’t always mean better scouts or better coaches though.

They don’t have a choice.

If you’re not an athlete ..getting into the UW takes a 3.8 GPA

Sports is a small portion of UW’s total pie.