The Next Jimmy Lake Radio Show

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Softy: So Jimmy, what did you think of that dynamic, pass heavy Alabama offense?

Jimmy: It wasn’t bad but we’re going to RTDB.

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Bama ran the ball 36 times and a lot of Mac Jones’ completions were screen passes to WR’s or swing passes to RB’s which are basically perimeter run plays. Very few vertical routes thrown by Bama tonight. Pretty conservative game plan by Bama. They slowly grinded out that win and when you can consistently execute you can put 50+ points on the board methodically moving the ball down the field without a whole lot of explosive plays.

Ohio State loves to throw the ball around a lot too and they got their asses kicked so it goes both ways. Style of play doesn’t matter as much as being physical and executing whatever is called. Bama is the bigger more physical team on both sides of the ball and they executed better than Ohio State even with their top two WR’s being injured. Jimmy is building UW in the same mold as Bama. He wants UW to be big and physical like that while still have WR’s who make explosive plays. I’m all for it. You should wait to see how it comes to together in year two and three before talking shit. Year one was already promising.

I swear some of y’all want us to be an Air Raid team. Just admit it.

What I want is not only a solid run game, but a great play action pass off it as well as straight up passes when needed. Both short, med and long throws and mix it up.

I would like a passing offense with the ability to scheme people open at all levels combined with a running game that the opposing defense must adjust their system to stop.

I would be jumping up and down thrilled with swing passes to Sean McGrew yet running him on dive plays into full defensive boxes was the preferred approach. No shame for Donovan and Lake to steal Alabama’s playbook. It’s got infinitely more creativity than ours. Yeah they have far superior athletes that we can’t duplicate but there’s no copyright law on play design.

CoachLakeFan wrote:

I would like a passing offense with the ability to scheme people open at all levels combined with a running game that the opposing defense must adjust their system to stop.

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I agree with this. Look at the NFL game as a guide. Yes it is a passing game, but running the damn ball is important too and running efficiently. You do not have too run it 50 times a game, but enough to change the way the defense plays you.

Nip8 wrote:

I would be jumping up and down thrilled with swing passes to Sean McGrew yet running him on dive plays into full defensive boxes was the preferred approach. No shame for Donovan and Lake to steal Alabama’s playbook. It’s got infinitely more creativity than ours. Yeah they have far superior athletes that we can’t duplicate but there’s no copyright law on play design.

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UW’s offense had enough creativity to mount two 21 point second half comebacks in back to back weeks. That’s never been done before in program history. If they simply play four quarters like they played the second halves of those games, they’re going to score 40 or 50+ almost every game.

UW has superior athletes too. We have elite talent at every position on offense. The coaches just need to play the best players and the players just need to go from showing flashes to being consistent and that comes with experience in this new offense.

Like I said before, put the best O-lineman on the field (Troy Fautanu, Myles Murao) and play the more talented RBs (Cam Davis, Jay’Veon Sunday, Sam Adams, Caleb Berry) and this offense will absolutely take off. But if we watch the Michigan game and tiny ass little Sean McGrew is getting the bulk of the carries, fire everybody. He can do some kick return shit and get some carries if the younger, more talented backs aren’t running with good vision. But other than that, I don’t want to see him on the field. The youth movement that happened at WR needs to happen at RB next season.

I just want to see us not wait until we’re down by 21 to show our more open playbook. I was actually impressed with Donavan’s ability to scheme receivers open. I think he has a some good passing game concepts I’d just like to see us be more aggressive with it. And am in agreement that Cam Davis needs to be the guy at RB. Sean McGrew should still get some run on stretch plays and catching ball out of the backfield, but asking him to run up the gut into an 8 man box is not the answer. And then when we are running the ball, not to always go into bunch formation and televise that we’re running up the gut. Keep the defenses spread out.

I think there is room for optimism, but I’m worried there’s a similar philosophy issue with Jimmy on how offense should look in the same bullshit we see from Pete Carroll on the Seahawks. That defensive mentality I think will hurt our ability to truly open things up on offense. I think we will find success with Jimmy, but I do think it will hold us back on truly being great, the same way its been last 5 years with Seattle.

webdawg13 wrote:

I just want to see us not wait until we’re down by 21 to show our more open playbook. I was actually impressed with Donavan’s ability to scheme receivers open. I think he has a some good passing game concepts I’d just like to see us be more aggressive with it. And am in agreement that Cam Davis needs to be the guy at RB. Sean McGrew should still get some run on stretch plays and catching ball out of the backfield, but asking him to run up the gut into an 8 man box is not the answer. And then when we are running the ball, not to always go into bunch formation and televise that we’re running up the gut. Keep the defenses spread out.

I think there is room for optimism, but I’m worried there’s a similar philosophy issue with Jimmy on how offense should look in the same bullshit we see from Pete Carroll on the Seahawks. That defensive mentality I think will hurt our ability to truly open things up on offense. I think we will find success with Jimmy, but I do think it will hold us back on truly being great, the same way its been last 5 years with Seattle.

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Not really a fair comparison between UW’s offense and the Seahawks offense. The Seahawks have one of the worst O-lines in the league on an annual basis. Their personnel does not fit the playing style they want to run. UW will have one of the best O-lines in the country every year from here on out.

Condensed formations can catch defenses off guard when you throw out of them. The would-be game tying TD pass to Ty Jones against Stanford was out of a condensed formation with only two WR’s on the field and both receivers were wide open in the end zone. There is a play action passing package out of the condensed bunch formation that hasn’t been opened up yet.

I am a Huskies fan as well as a Seahawks fan. But its football. The best teams are able to run effectively and still pass the ball/convert 3 downs. The play action pass is good tool to use. Most fans whine about throwing the ball, but when you look at the teams left in the playoffs, they run it as well as they throw it ala Alabama in the title game. You give the defense several different looks with your personal and create matchup problems.

Mac Jones threw 30 passes in the first half. They won the game by throwing.

@Chest, Yes Alabama threw the ball 30 times in the first half, Davis had 12 catches for 212 in the first half. College football is not about “Running the Damn Ball” If we had a back close to Harris I would be more encouraged but we don’t, we have a bunch of Jags, no dude Berry is not Najee Harris trust. Lake’s emphasis on a bad running game is what has me worried about next year. Especially with our mediocre at best running back room. Luckily KB is on the job and plans to bring in another 3*, Sawchuck is already off the board. How the hell do you have a manta of “Run the Damn Ball” but you don’t emphasize running back recruiting.

253-404Dawg wrote:

@Chest, Yes Alabama threw the ball 30 times in the first half, Davis had 12 catches for 212 in the first half. College football is not about “Running the Damn Ball” If we had a back close to Harris I would be more encouraged but we don’t, we have a bunch of Jags, no dude Berry is not Najee Harris trust. Lake’s emphasis on a bad running game is what has me worried about next year. Especially with our mediocre at best running back room. Luckily KB is on the job and plans to bring in another 3*, Sawchuck is already off the board. How the hell do you have a manta of “Run the Damn Ball” but you don’t emphasize running back recruiting.

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Agreed.

Lake might coach us out of the Rose Bowl.

Ryan Day said after the game that stopping the run was a big point of emphasis.

I think Sark took what tOSU gave him, thus 30 passes in the first half.

Lake suffers from the same pitfalls as Pete Carroll. He is perfectly content playing the field position game for an entire half and not put any effort into scoring points until they fall behind. Carroll has been doing this for a decade and has regularly relied on heroics from Wilson to bail him out. Lake is fortunate Morris is actually mentally tough and was able to lead us back from those huge deficits. Can you imagine how those games would have turned out if Browning was the QB? However it’s not a sustainable strategy and I’ll be very concerned if we continue to see the trend next season. We can trash Petersen’s offense (and rightfully so) but he rarely fell behind by more than one score. I think the large deficits are a direct result of the defensive coach mentality of “Let’s play conservative ball control offense until we fall behind”.

253-404Dawg wrote:

@Chest, Yes Alabama threw the ball 30 times in the first half, Davis had 12 catches for 212 in the first half. College football is not about “Running the Damn Ball” If we had a back close to Harris I would be more encouraged but we don’t, we have a bunch of Jags, no dude Berry is not Najee Harris trust. Lake’s emphasis on a bad running game is what has me worried about next year. Especially with our mediocre at best running back room. Luckily KB is on the job and plans to bring in another 3*, Sawchuck is already off the board. How the hell do you have a manta of “Run the Damn Ball” but you don’t emphasize running back recruiting.

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Our four youngest RB’s have higher upsides than Najee Harris does. Harris is a big, physical back with good vision but he peaked in high school, has lost a step since then, and isn’t very fast. You guys act like some regular ass starter for Bama is SO much better than any of our guys could ever be and you’re wrong.

Did y’all forget “RUN THE DAMN BALL” was just a troll job after the OSU game to set up more passing versus Arizona? Jimmy wants to do whatever he sees fit to win the game based on the opponents weakness which makes sense. Ohio State thought they could throw the ball on Bama until they watched Bama’s D-line and front seven whoop their O-line’s ass in pass pro and harass Fields. You have to be able to adapt between run and pass and be good at doing both. If you rely too much on either you have one paddle and once that paddle gets taken away you’re dead in the water.

We saw four games. That’s it. And the offense was clearly evolving each week. What would it have looked like in weeks 8-12 if they played a normal schedule? We have to wait until next season to find out.

Provided Spring Practice can happen on time and Summer camp the UW will be much improved.

I think the coaches did the right thing in scaling things back for a lot of new players.
You have brimming confidence going into the off season with DMo, Rome, Jalen and ZTF. They
know they can play and gotta be looking at a full season as something they’re ready to
prepare for in the off season.

Run Blocking will improve. I think the line will stay the same save for Murao coming in at a
Guard spot to get some reps.

Watched some videos on OL technique in traps and other stuff and it’s easy to why Coaches keep
it simple initially. A missed block could turn into losing our QB or RB for the season.

In a short season with new schemes ..nah that’s a risk Coach Huff isn’t taking.

@Ballz, Harris maxed out in high school, our 4 youngest backs have higher upsides than Harris. Hahahahahaha, OK Bro!! He peeked in high school is the most dumbest doog evaluation ever, and honestly someone who has never played sports or been around sports. It’s very rare a kid peaks or can’t improve at the age of 18. But his high school peak is better than everything we got!

I want to be respectful but I’m sorry Ballz. Thats the most ridiculous, asinine statement you’ve made, and you have made more than a few.

I would just like to clarify where I’m coming from. I really don’t care what kind of offense a team runs. Matter of fact my favorite team to watch growing up was Oklahoma and they ran the Wishbone. It was beautiful to watch in it’s efficiency and effectiveness. I just balk at RTDB when it’s constant dive plays that don’t require any diagnosis from the defense and is no challenge to stop. The point of offense is to get the defense to have to think for half a second and then react putting them a step behind. I saw nothing in the Donovan/ Lake offense in those 4 games that made me think this is an offense that defenses won’t want to play. Dawg fans won’t like it but Chip Kelly’s offense was absolutely beautiful to watch and it was totally based on run first. What I’m saying and I think at least a few will agree with is there is nothing wrong with RTDB, but do it in a way that has some creativity and deceptiveness to it. Not the crap we saw last season. What we saw you would expect from a PEE Wee football team.