Rumors on IG live that he said he was going to decommit today. Reaffirmed when looking at his IG and Twitter bio. Removed all things uw and shows status as un committed
Expect a sir mells decommit today
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Pretty dumb decision on their part. Don’t commit to a school if all it takes for you to decommit is a couple more Pac-12 offers when you were already committed to the top Pac-12 program. They were “committed” for all of two months. Both of them will end up regretting that decision if they lose their spot at UW. They’ll be begging the staff to take them after next season and we’ll see if UW still has room for them or not.
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Like with Jones decommitment, I’m not worried about the loss of talent. Neither of the two showed me anything on tape to warrant taking them this early with better prospects out there. It remains the optics of the decommits and struggling staff. It’s harder to hide the problem within the program with so much negative coming out.
Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. But this coincides with what I was told last night following the Jones news. Visits are going to help with recruiting. This issue is all on the staff. No other school is having this bad of problems recruiting without visits. Adapt or die, I was in the game long enough to know Lake is being stubborn and egotistical with his approach to recruiting. It’s clear an offer from UW doesn’t hold the same weight that I did just a few years ago
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I’m sure Ballz and other excuse makers will tell us this is all about Covid and recruits not being able to visit campus like UW is some kind of Shang-ri-la that once you see it no place else compares. Fact is if you can’t sell on
Zoom you can’t sell in person either. Winners win and losers make excuses. Jimmy has managed to reverse a trend of really good recruiting into an utter shitshow. -
Lake needs to go prove me wrong.
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I’m sure Ballz and other excuse makers will tell us this is all about Covid and recruits not being able to visit campus like UW is some kind of Shang-ri-la that once you see it no place else compares. Fact is if you can’t sell on
Zoom you can’t sell in person either. Winners win and losers make excuses. Jimmy has managed to reverse a trend of really good recruiting into an utter shitshow.This staff has already proven (outside of Rip) that they can sell in-person. I already said they suck at zoom recruiting. I’ll wait to see how they recruit under normal circumstances to fully judge them.
And yeah, UW is special in-person. Back when the kids could take visits, UW was whooping Oregon’s ass in just about every head-to-head battle. Take away the visit and all of a sudden Oregon’s bullshit hype train gets rollin. Now they don’t have to show recruits how shitty Eugene is before conning them into committing to them.
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Germie B. has an Oregon offer and I imagine a USC one will come along too. How long before he bails?
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I don’t fault the kids whatsoever for opening it up. I’d jump at an opportunity to another school like SC or Oregon, especially if they were working harder to show me the love, show me how they would use me within a program on the rise. You can expect more to do the same with Lake and his staff, this commit-or-else bullshit should’ve died with Petersen leaving. This shows time and time again that Lake is so oblivious when it comes to the ever-changing landscape of college football recruiting. Honestly, we are severely outmatched and I don’t see that changing. He has prioritized personal loyalties and staff continuity over recruiting success…period. All of you that still are on the fence with Lake need to jump the fuck off, this isn’t working. Justin Glenn isn’t getting it done at all. Buzz about UW has never been lower in recent memory. I’m tired of all these “let’s get to work” videos they keep posting. That’s great but you need to work on infusing this program with elite talent. Get over yourself Jimmy, open your fucking eyes and realize that you and your boys aren’t getting it done with these kids. They don’t wanna come here.
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I don’t fault the kids whatsoever for opening it up. I’d jump at an opportunity to another school like SC or Oregon, especially if they were working harder to show me the love, show me how they would use me within a program on the rise. You can expect more to do the same with Lake and his staff, this commit-or-else bullshit should’ve died with Petersen leaving. This shows time and time again that Lake is so oblivious when it comes to the ever-changing landscape of college football recruiting. Honestly, we are severely outmatched and I don’t see that changing. He has prioritized personal loyalties and staff continuity over recruiting success…period. All of you that still are on the fence with Lake need to jump the fuck off, this isn’t working. Justin Glenn isn’t getting it done at all. Buzz about UW has never been lower in recent memory. I’m tired of all these “let’s get to work” videos they keep posting. That’s great but you need to work on infusing this program with elite talent. Get over yourself Jimmy, open your fucking eyes and realize that you and your boys aren’t getting it done with these kids. They don’t wanna come here.
You’d jump at the opportunity to go to a shitty program and lose to Iowa and Iowa State in bowl games? I guess you have low standards.
I think the bottom line is, some recruits get it, and some recruits don’t. You can tell by reading their interviews, which ones are taking the recruiting process seriously and doing their research and which ones are just along for the ride and chasing the next big offer.
UW wants the guys who take the process seriously and know what UW has to offer and come here because of everything UW has to offer instead of just coming here because of hype. UW wants guys who are well-rounded individuals and legit in every way. Great football players with NFL talent, elite work ethic, and the right mentality. If a recruit needs our coaches to suck him off and shower him with attention 24/7 during the recruiting process, he’s probably a bitch and he’s probably not going to make it here anyways and needs to go to a soft program like Oregon or USC to get on the field.
Time will tell, but these two decommitting could be doing UW a favor in the long run. They need to do their research and hopefully take visits so that if they do decide to commit to UW (again), they know what they’re getting themselves into.
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Not working hard at something(laziness) usually has a root cause of you thinking you are better at something than you really are(arrogance). Throw in stubbornness and you have a trifecta for failure.
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Not working hard at something(laziness) usually has a root cause of you thinking you are better at something than you really are(arrogance). Throw in stubbornness and you have a trifecta for failure.
It’s not arrogant. UW is the best program in the Pac-12 at both developing players into NFL draft picks as well as supporting their athletes to thrive in the classroom at a world-class institution. It’s the best of both worlds. The most well-rounded program out West. They don’t “think” they’re better. They know they’re better. Real recognize real. The kids who see and value what UW has to offer without needing to be showered with constant attention are the kids we want because they usually turn out to be really mentally tough and resilient individuals in college who continue to work their asses off even if their not getting on the field on Saturdays early in their career here. Let the bitches go to Oregon and USC. We’ll get the legit kids and kick their asses with them. Just watch.
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Not working hard at something(laziness) usually has a root cause of you thinking you are better at something than you really are(arrogance). Throw in stubbornness and you have a trifecta for failure.
It’s not arrogant. UW is the best program in the Pac-12 at both developing players into NFL draft picks as well as supporting their athletes to thrive in the classroom at a world-class institution. It’s the best of both worlds. The most well-rounded program out West. They don’t “think” they’re better. They know they’re better. Real recognize real. The kids who see and value what UW has to offer without needing to be showered with constant attention are the kids we want because they usually turn out to be really mentally tough and resilient individuals in college who continue to work their asses off even if their not getting on the field on Saturdays early in their career here. Let the bitches go to Oregon and USC. We’ll get the legit kids and kick their asses with them. Just watch.
Your arguments are so weak man, I will never share your line of thinking or apathy. If you truly believe that UW is the BEST program in the conference and Lake’s shortcomings are not a result of arrogance or bitterness, why can’t they sell this great program better then? Real recognize real? Come the fuck on, what a joke. These coaches can’t recruit bruh. Get off this OKG bullshit. “We only want kids who are passionate about UW. These recruits are just dumb, they don’t get it.” Well, elite recruiters elicit passion and can perpetuate momentum. We are not seeing that. You and the rest of these Lake apologists on DM continue to look for outs, for outrageous excuses. Blaming everyone else except those that are actually accountable. Face up to it. Stop hiding behind some veil of positivity. You’re just in severe denial.
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Nah, the coaches will get whoever the fuck they get, they will be talented, and they will win with them. Who they get and how that happens doesn’t matter. Either they win with the guys they get or they get fired. It’s that simple. All this recruiting hype bullshit is for the birds. UW doesn’t offer a lot of kids so whoever they get will be a kid they think highly of both on and off the field and the majority if them won’t turn out to be soft bitches like USC and Oregon players who get blown out by 3-star try-hard farm boys from Iowa.
And I don’t “believe” UW is the best program. It’s fact. Most wins, most legit conference titles, most draft picks, and highest APR in the conference. UW is at the top of every category since this coaching staff got here.
Lake has a lot of prove but until he has a chance to prove it, the incessant bitching is a waste of time and energy. Nobody in control of recruiting gives a fuck what you, or I, or any of us think.
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Nah, the coaches will get whoever the fuck they get, they will be talented, and they will win with them. Who they get and how that happens doesn’t matter. Either they win with the guys they get or they get fired. It’s that simple. All this recruiting hype bullshit is for the birds. UW doesn’t offer a lot of kids so whoever they get will be a kid they think highly of both on and off the field and the majority if them won’t turn out to be soft bitches like USC and Oregon players who get blown out by 3-star try-hard farm boys from Iowa.
And I don’t “believe” UW is the best program. It’s fact. Most wins, most legit conference titles, most draft picks, and highest APR in the conference. UW is at the top of every category since this coaching staff got here.
Lake has a lot of prove but until he has a chance to prove it, the incessant bitching is a waste of time and energy. Nobody in control of recruiting gives a fuck what you, or I, or any of us think.
So why hasnt the staff offered this kid from The Dalles yet? You said the kid grew up a Husky fan right?
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Nah, the coaches will get whoever the fuck they get, they will be talented, and they will win with them. Who they get and how that happens doesn’t matter. Either they win with the guys they get or they get fired. It’s that simple. All this recruiting hype bullshit is for the birds. UW doesn’t offer a lot of kids so whoever they get will be a kid they think highly of both on and off the field and the majority if them won’t turn out to be soft bitches like USC and Oregon players who get blown out by 3-star try-hard farm boys from Iowa.
And I don’t “believe” UW is the best program. It’s fact. Most wins, most legit conference titles, most draft picks, and highest APR in the conference. UW is at the top of every category since this coaching staff got here.
Lake has a lot of prove but until he has a chance to prove it, the incessant bitching is a waste of time and energy. Nobody in control of recruiting gives a fuck what you, or I, or any of us think.
So why hasnt the staff offered this kid from The Dalles yet? You said the kid grew up a Husky fan right?
How the fuck should I know? Yes, his uncle is James Atoe and he said he grew up a Husky fan and his dream school is UW. I would assume he’s quickly becoming more of a priority worthy of an offer but I don’t have a crystal ball.
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I don’t fault the kids whatsoever for opening it up. I’d jump at an opportunity to another school like SC or Oregon, especially if they were working harder to show me the love, show me how they would use me within a program on the rise. You can expect more to do the same with Lake and his staff, this commit-or-else bullshit should’ve died with Petersen leaving. This shows time and time again that Lake is so oblivious when it comes to the ever-changing landscape of college football recruiting. Honestly, we are severely outmatched and I don’t see that changing. He has prioritized personal loyalties and staff continuity over recruiting success…period. All of you that still are on the fence with Lake need to jump the fuck off, this isn’t working. Justin Glenn isn’t getting it done at all. Buzz about UW has never been lower in recent memory. I’m tired of all these “let’s get to work” videos they keep posting. That’s great but you need to work on infusing this program with elite talent. Get over yourself Jimmy, open your fucking eyes and realize that you and your boys aren’t getting it done with these kids. They don’t wanna come here.
Gotta echo Ballz here: you’d jump at the chance to go to USC, where the coach will likely be fired by next year and hasn’t shown they could find their own ass with two hands and a map? Or Oregon, where the staff hasn’t even shown they can develop highly-rated DTs into high draft picks, much less 3-star guys? They took Jaylen Jelks and Jordon Scott and turned them into handfuls of poop. Go for it, though, if that’s your thing.
I agree with your stance that there’s no buzz around Washington or recruiting. Maybe that should be our thing. I don’t know. But it’s not our thing. Our thing seems to be show me, don’t tell me. We are like the boxer with great left hook getting peppered for 5 rounds just waiting for a chance to land it. If we do, KO. If we don’t, we’re going to look like dogshit. Our left hook in this case is the season. We need to fucking put up and massacre the entire conference, no excuses. You can’t be all about that action and then not show up when the bell rings. And if we do, we’ll sell again.
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Gotta echo Ballz here: you’d jump at the chance to go to USC, where the coach will likely be fired by next year and hasn’t shown they could find their own ass with two hands and a map? Or Oregon, where the staff hasn’t even shown they can develop highly-rated DTs into high draft picks, much less 3-star guys? They took Jaylen Jelks and Jordon Scott and turned them into handfuls of poop. Go for it, though, if that’s your thing.
I’m just curious – do you have any other examples of Oregon not developing highly-rated DT’s into high draft picks? Jelks and Scott were both three-star recruits, and both have had pretty good college careers – Jelks was first second, then first team Pac 12. I am a 49er fan, and my team drafted two DL guys from Oregon in the first round in successive years, Arik Armstead and DeForest Buckner, and both have been successful in the NFL with very lucrative second contracts. The Niners also have another guy who was drafted top three out of Oregon, Dion Jordan, who was apparently signed originally as a WR/TE out of high school.
I can think of a few position groups were Oregon can justly be criticized for not developing highly-rated talent (WR and OL come to mind), but it seems like DL would actually be a selling point for them.
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Gotta echo Ballz here: you’d jump at the chance to go to USC, where the coach will likely be fired by next year and hasn’t shown they could find their own ass with two hands and a map? Or Oregon, where the staff hasn’t even shown they can develop highly-rated DTs into high draft picks, much less 3-star guys? They took Jaylen Jelks and Jordon Scott and turned them into handfuls of poop. Go for it, though, if that’s your thing.
I’m just curious – do you have any other examples of Oregon not developing highly-rated DT’s into high draft picks? Jelks and Scott were both three-star recruits, and both have had pretty good college careers – Jelks was first second, then first team Pac 12. I am a 49er fan, and my team drafted two DL guys from Oregon in the first round in successive years, Arik Armstead and DeForest Buckner, and both have been successful in the NFL with very lucrative second contracts. The Niners also have another guy who was drafted top three out of Oregon, Dion Jordan, who was apparently signed originally as a WR/TE out of high school.
I can think of a few position groups were Oregon can justly be criticized for not developing highly-rated talent (WR and OL come to mind), but it seems like DL would actually be a selling point for them.
Armstead, Buckner, and Jordan were all Chip Kelly guys. Cristobal and company don’t get credit for them. Jalen Jelks was a 7th round draft pick. Jordan Scott won’t get drafted. Oregon’s current staff has a horrible track record of developing defensive lineman into NFL players.
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I’m just trying to follow the argument that you and your burner account are making. It seems like you have narrowed the scope of the ‘track record’ to the three years Cristobal has been the head coach. So who in that time didn’t get developed that should have? What highly rated recruits are you talking about? I’m genuinely curious.
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I’m just trying to follow the argument that you and your burner account are making. It seems like you have narrowed the scope of the ‘track record’ to the three years Cristobal has been the head coach. So who in that time didn’t get developed that should have? What highly rated recruits are you talking about? I’m genuinely curious.
Doesn’t matter what they’re rated. Greg Gaines and Vita Vea and Joe Tryon were all 3-star recruits. If you’re good at developing players, you put guys in the league. And their D-line coach was hired by Taggart. He’s been there five years. Coaching staffs only get credit for guys they actually coached. All the guys you mentioned were gone before even Taggart got the job. Do you understand now?
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I had a specific question about whether there were highly-rated DT recruits that Oregon was squandering as the above post indicated. It seems like you are unable to name any, and I suspect there are none. Jelks is a tweener – too small for an NFL defensive end, so I am not surprised that he hasn’t done well in the NFL. We’ll see about Jordon Scott, but he doesn’t exactly have the prototypical NFL body either.
I think UW has done a great job of identifying DL talent among the 3-star ranks, which is more or less a necessity in the Northwest, where DT’s don’t exactly grow on evergreen trees. Just scanning the Oregon DL recruits of the past four years (which is how long Salave’a has been coaching at Oregon) it seems like they are just cobbling together a DL with a mix of last-minute flips, three-star projects, and JC transfers. Kind of surprising, given their prowess in recruiting other positions. I suspect their recruiting will get better, and Thibodeaux has certainly been a success thus far.
Anyway, we’ll see if Mells even ends up there. It’s early yet; he may come back to UW.
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