Jimmy make the right decision.
Pro-Style teams don’t have to be boring. They are harder to build because
you have to have a run game and that means a really good OL. Then your QB
has to more cerebral. His pre-snap coverage read needs to have a high hit rate.
I’d say an Elite Pro-Style college team would beat an Elite Spread team probably 60%
but the problem is building that Pro-Style team…it’s gonna take more time where
a QB knows they can integrate into a spread team like OK,Clemson or LSU and be 70% of the
That’s exactly the issue though. We have watched CP’s “pro-style” offense here since 2014. We had one year where it was pretty dang good. One year out of six. And even in that one year, we got shut down by USC and Alabama and Colorado to a large extent.
I don’t want an offense where we need everything to fall our way to get an above-average offense. We need something that is easy to teach so that we can have above-average offenses every year, despite personnel loss, like other college teams.
Going pro-style just lowers your margin for error so dramatically. Every technique needs to be perfect. Every assignment needs to be made. Every blitz needs to be caught and picked up. We saw the issues with that this year when we weren’t perfect, so many losses came by less than a touchdown and in each loss you can trace it back to a single possession where some stupid mistake was made.
That’s fine to do in the pros where everyone runs that type of offense and you’re dealing with veterans that can handle it. In college, you’re just willfully handicapping yourself.
It’s pretty unfair to ignore the talent difference between Petersen’s offenses the last couple years and what Jimmy and Donovan will have to work with. It doesn’t matter what kind of offense you run if you have Mountain West receivers trying to play against Pac-12 competition week in and week out. That’s what we’ve had to deal with the last couple seasons and those days are over.
I don’t think pro-style is harder to execute when you have elite offensive talent at all positions like UW will. The spread is for less talented teams like WSU, that are trying to overcome a talent disparity by making defenses cover the entire field. UW will be able to just beat people physically upfront and down the field with speed. No need for bubble screen bullshit when your receivers and TE’s are better athletes than the DB’s and LB’s trying to defend them and can beat them vertically.
I watch the 49ers offense and it’s just a thing of beauty. They throw the ball vertically. No linebacker in the league can cover Kittle. Their receivers have space to operate because their isn’t constantly four receivers on the field. They run a lot of tight formations that look like obvious run formations and then everybody breaks out into a route and they surprise defenses and then somebody is wide open. You never know what they’re going to do in terms of run versus pass. They even use their full back as a receiver out of the back field and aren’t afraid to throw it to him deep. I watched them beat the Seahawks on one play with a fullback wheel route for a 30 something yard completion. They don’t throw pussy ass WR screens. If they throw horizontally, it’s a rub route to the slot receiver running an out that gets them 8-12 yards easy. If they throw any kind of screen, they’ve got pulling lineman blocking downfield for receivers or running backs. It’s just super efficient and gets chunk play after chunk play.
I think as long as Donovan is creative like Kyle Shanahan is and we have a good QB to run it, UW’s offense will be hard to stop. Everybody has been complaining about our pussy ass offense being too conservative and soft for years and now Jimmy says they’re going to be aggressive, physical, pound the rock, and throw the ball vertically down the field and people are still complaining? You just can’t win with some people. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Pessimists will be pessimistic no matter what.
Not sure where to start here.
1. I think you are mixing up spread and air raid. Everyone runs the spread. All 4 playoff teams, spread. It is not just for teams with lesser talent. Nobody is advocating we run the WSU full air raid, that is silly. But a spread team that runs the ball from the spread is what most of the successful teams are running nowadays. Pro-style is a dinosaur. It was a dinosaur when we hired CP, and it’s still a dinosaur. Lots of stuff online about why the spread is working in college if you want to do some internetting.
2. Pro-style is harder to execute. More precise route concepts. More complex blocking assignments. Harder to pick up blitzes from compact formations. You basically need a savant at QB.
3. Every offense runs bubble screens. One of the biggest complaints of Donovan at PSU by their fans was that all he did was run sweeps and bubble screens. You’re going to continue seeing bubble screens here.
4. There’s no evidence that Donovan is on the same planet of coaching ability as Kyle Shanahan. That was the hope if we were going pro, get someone from the 49ers or the Saints or the Chiefs. We went with an assistant to an assistant of the Jacksonville Jaguars, one of the worst and least creative offenses every year.